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ɤRastaban
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Alright, so the atheist thread was getting rather cluttered...took forever for it to load, and then to scroll down to the bottom...And it was getting rather off-topic. So this thread is for theology overall, and to have open, NON-FLAME discussions about the various world theologies.
For the sake of this thread, let's say that theology applies to the major world religions of the day (ie the Abramic religions, Confucianism, Taoism, Buddhism, Hinduism, ect...). Let's leave the pagan and ancient religions to a mythology thread, if anyone wants to start that.
So let's continue the discussion from the atheist thread.
For the sake of this thread, let's say that theology applies to the major world religions of the day (ie the Abramic religions, Confucianism, Taoism, Buddhism, Hinduism, ect...). Let's leave the pagan and ancient religions to a mythology thread, if anyone wants to start that.
So let's continue the discussion from the atheist thread.
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9 of 10 voices in my head are telling me to pull the trigger; the tenth says, "No! Throw the grenade!"
9 of 10 voices in my head are telling me to pull the trigger; the tenth says, "No! Throw the grenade!"
02.01.08 2:23 am

ʊIrishancest (#7879)
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ɤRastaban (#8023)
Is In Your Base, Killing Your Mans
9 of 10 voices in my head are telling me to pull the trigger; the tenth says, "No! Throw the grenade!"
ʊIrishancest (#8162)
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ɤRastaban (#8413)
Is In Your Base, Killing Your Mans
So far, the youth pastor of my church has yet to teach anything that disagrees with the Bible. It would be great if I could find an entire church that does that as well. I've found a few things about various denominations that I don't like, and for the baptist church there's (currently) only one, and that is the actual people who call themselves 'baptist.' I could go further into later, if anyone wanted.
9 of 10 voices in my head are telling me to pull the trigger; the tenth says, "No! Throw the grenade!"
ʊIrishancest (#8439)
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And I think that the absolute truth in the bible is completely relative because everyone that reads it will come up with their own ideas about what it means, and because of this ability to be constantly reinterpreted every church will have slightly different views on what it means and how to follow it.
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ɤcrazycycoclown (#8189)
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I know one thing like with me and the catholic church is that they hide so many things and make so much stuff up it is rediculous.
me... i am pentacostal
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ɤFyrel (#8224)
Is In Your Base, Killing Your Mans
ɤcrazycycoclown (#8248)
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The day of the pentacost the 140(i think) (that is including 11 desciples) were baptized in the holy spirit.
tis just another thing of christianity... like lutherans or baptists...
their is 1 devide in christianity really..
catholics and protestants
now their are different types of catholosism and their are different types of protestants... like pentacostal and lutheran
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ʊIrishancest (#8253)
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ɤRastaban (#8414)
Is In Your Base, Killing Your Mans
9 of 10 voices in my head are telling me to pull the trigger; the tenth says, "No! Throw the grenade!"
ʊIrishancest (#8438)
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ɤCrazyEddie (#14196)
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ʊIrishancest (#14198)
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ɤdreamkin (#8325)
Nameless One
Really... To be technical Theology doesn't really apply to Confucianism, Taoism and Buddhism, because these religions do not have Gods. Then again.. The line is blurred.
Anyway. I didn't see any question... Just dropped by to say I can be your local islam expert in case you have any questions.
ɤcrazycycoclown (#8378)
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that those "religions" do not have gods... (i put "" around religions because in my views they are not religions but just a way you live your life)
so i find this funny
Judaism, Islam, Christianity all with their different sects and sub-religions all believe in the same God... just different belifs about him
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ɤdreamkin (#8382)
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Then again. A religion is basicly a way of life. It's a belief around which you base your reality. Some sects in islam are remarkably similar to taoism for instance.
Every single religion is a theory on the nature of the universe. Sometimes you believe in that theory because you think it makes most sense. Or because you HOPE it is right. There is no difference. In my view atheism is a religion too. After all atheists strongly believe that God does not exist. And theists believe he does. Neither side has any scientific proof. (not that anything can be proven of course but that's another can of worms)
ʊchalkley3 (#8397)
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ɤRastaban (#8416)
Is In Your Base, Killing Your Mans
9 of 10 voices in my head are telling me to pull the trigger; the tenth says, "No! Throw the grenade!"
ɤdreamkin (#8422)
Nameless One
For instance, in daily life you can easily say the shortest route between two points is a straight line. You can even prove this with empirical evidence.
The problem is that this is a wrong statement. Indeed the shortest route between any two different points in space is a curve, simply because there is no such thing as a straight line. Now this knowledge doesn't help you at all in your daily life so, in your daily life it is proven that the shortest route between two points is a straight line, but when you are traveling at light speed between galaxies it is proven that the shortest route is a curve.
This may also be ultimately untrue, for this is only our current understanding of universe and the relationship between points relative to each other. One day our understanding may change.
Regardless of our understanding something either is or isn't. Something doesn't exist just because you believe in it. God either exists or doesn't. You can't think "spiritually" If God exists, that means he is as real as me.
Reality is. Our perception is an entirely different matter.
100 years ago we did not know about Pluto
10 years we knew it was the ninth planet of the solar system
Now we know it isn't a planet.
During this 100 year period Pluto's existence didn't change at all. It is our understanding that changes.
ɤRastaban (#8417)
Is In Your Base, Killing Your Mans
9 of 10 voices in my head are telling me to pull the trigger; the tenth says, "No! Throw the grenade!"
ɤdreamkin (#8420)
Nameless One
The word "God" usually refers to an sapient and sentient being with the power to create or make something out of nothing. It is the ultimate answer to the hidden questions :"Yes but where does matter come from?" and the answer to every other problem we cannot answer.
Belief is not a factor here. We know pretty much that Buddha was a person and he never claimed to be a God. He just said some smart things and was clever enough to convert Taoism into a simple form so that stupid people can get it.
Taoism doesn't really say there is God and in saying so it says there is only God. This is practically the same as as the Tasavvuf belief/philosophy of islam (to which faction I also sort of belong to) While this sounds like a paradox it really isn't and this is the problem about Tao. It is so simple that it is hard to understand for a person who hearing the concept for the first time. But to be short Tao does not refer to a God in terms of God as represented in the word Theology.
Of course I have no objection to discussing Tao here. Belief systems are an exciting thing.
ɤFyrel (#20358)
Is In Your Base, Killing Your Mans
I just had a discussion with a friend about Christianity last night, so I thought I'd post some thoughts...
Talking to my friend, I realized exactly how different the interpretations of the Bible are. In the youth group snow retreat I went to, they explicitly stated that you cannot depend on good works to get you into heaven; only by accepting Christ as your savior can you get into heaven.
From some interpretations I've heard, it seems what you do in this life doesn't count; as long as you've accepted Christ you can get into heaven regardless of how morally depraved you are.
By this interpretation, how late would it be to accept Christ? A minute from death? An hour? How would it be determined?